Ancestors of Brent & Janice Bertram, and related families



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James M. RIDDLE




Husband James M. RIDDLE

         Born: 1844
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       Father: Nathan RIDDLE (1823-1889)
       Mother: Elizabeth GREEN (1827-      )


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James W. RIDDLE and Rebecca "Becky" WHITAKER




Husband James W. RIDDLE

         Born: 1850
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         Died: 24 Aug 1920 - Whitaker Cem, Barnardsville, NC, Weaverville, NC, NC
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       Father: Marvel M. RIDDLE (1825-1916)
       Mother: Rachel AUSTIN (1819-1928)


     Marriage: Abt 1870




Wife Rebecca "Becky" WHITAKER

         Born: 1848
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         Died: 1942
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John RIDDLE




Husband John RIDDLE

         Born: 1832
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       Father: John W. RIDDLE Jr. (1800-      )
       Mother: Elender COOK (1800-      )


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John W. RIDDLE




Husband John W. RIDDLE

         Born: 1828
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       Father: Nathan RIDDLE (1804-      )
       Mother: Rebecca RIDDLE (1806-      )


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John W. RIDDLE Sr.




Husband John W. RIDDLE Sr.

         Born: Abt 1765
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         Died: 18 Mar 1844 - Pensacola, North Carolina
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Noted events in his life were:
• 1790census, 1790 - North Carolina

Ridle John 1 2 4 0 0

• 1800Census

Riddle John Stokes Co. NC 586 21110-14010-00

• Census, 1786 - North Carolina

John Riddle, W. M. 21-60=1, W.M. under 21 over 60=1, W.F.=2
State Census of NC 1784-1787, page 147

• Bio 1

John (W.?) RIDDLE SR. was born about 1765. He died on 18 Mar 1844 in
Pensacola, Yancey Co., NC. He has reference number Bunco.Co.1805. Based
on a recent discovery of a Bible belived to have belonged to either
Benjamin Tyree Riddle or to his son James Riddle, the following is
recorded: "John Riddle died the 18th of March 1844" This John Riddle is
believed to be the brother of Tyre and Randolph Riddle, who lived in
Stokes (Surry) County, NC during the period 1780-1803. John sold his land
in Stokes County in 1803 (Stokes Co. Deed Bk. #4, pg. 228) to Thomas
Silvey of Rowan County for $225.00. The land was located on Mill Creek
Branch of Snows Creek TWP., Stokes County, N.C. He moved to Yancey County
(Buncombe) in 1803-1805. John purchased land on the Cainey River from
George Wilson in January, 1805 (Buncombe County Deed Book #, page 55).
This John is shown in the 1790 and 1800 Stokes County, NC Census with
Tyre and Randolph. John is not shown in the 1810 Stokes County Census,
but is shown as the only Riddle in the Yancey (Buncombe) County, NC
Census. John's first wife is unknown. After his children were grown he
married Nancy Biddix. From:"Account of BIDDIX Family in W.N.C." Nancy
Jane BIDDIX is shown as the daughter of John BIDDIX I and Hannah BLUNT,
married Dec. 1780 in Orange Co., NC, near Hillsboro, N.C. John BIDDIX I
lived and died in Graveyard Creek, Yancey (Mitchell) County, NC He served
with the Orange Co. Dragoons in the Amer. Rev. War. As reported in the
"N.C. Spectator", Rutherford Co., Nancy Biddix (age 43) married John
Riddle (age 70) on Feb. 26, 1831, both were from Buncombe County.
He was married to Unknown_Wife of John Riddle before 1792.
Unknown_Wife of John Riddle was born about 1767. She died before 1830.
Children were:

i. William RIDDLE was born about 1793 in Stokes Co. NC. He died
about 1858 in Yancey County, NC. He has reference number Lloyd Bailey.
ii. Margaret ("Peggy") RIDDLE was born about 1795 in Stokes Co. NC.
She died about 1879. She was buried in Bailey Hill Cem., Yancey County,
NC.
iii. John W. RIDDLE Jr. was born about 1799 in Stokes Co., NC. He
was buried in Deyton-Riddle Cem.Brush Creek, Yancey Co.
64 iv. Benjamin Tyre RIDDLE.
v. Robert RIDDLE was born about 1801 in Stokes Co., NC.
vi. Nathanael RIDDLE was born in 1805 in NC. He died after 1870 in
NC. He was a Farmer. 1850 census: Lists Nat age 45 (1805), farmer with
value of realestate $300. Buncombe Co. NC 1860 census: Lists Nathanael
age 55 (1805), farmer with value of realestate $150 & value of personal
estate at $400. Madison Co., NC. 1870 census: Listed as Natha age 63
(1807) with Riddle Smith. Enumerated with John Holcomb & family. Also
listed is Nathan Horton, wife & daughter. Yancey Co., NC. Marriage info
from GRS CD-4 Marriage Records - MD, VA & NC. (Elizabeth) Madison Co. was
formed from Buncombe & Yancey Co. in 1851. Yancey Co. formed from
Buncombe & Burke Co. in 1833. Buncombe created in 1791 from Burke &
Rutherford.
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1 F Lucinda RIDDLE

          AKA: Lucinda COON
         Born: Between 1785 and 1794 1
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         Died: Aug 1847
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       Spouse: Adoniram ALLEN II (1782-1846)
         Marr: Bef 1805



2 M William RIDDLE 2

         Born: Abt 1793 - NC 2
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         Died: Abt 1858 - NC 2
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       Spouse: Priscilla "Pressie" HENSLEY (Abt 1795-      )
         Marr: Abt 1810 - NC



3 M Benjamin Tyre RIDDLE

         Born: 13 Mar 1800 - Buncombe County ?
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         Died: 19 Dec 1875 - Pensacola, North Carolina
       Buried: 
       Spouse: Rachel AUSTIN (Abt 1803-      )
         Marr: Bef 1818



4 M Nathaniel RIDDLE

         Born: 1805 - NC
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         Died: Abt 1870 - NC
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       Spouse: Elizabeth EDWARDS (Abt 1828-Abt 1870)
         Marr: 4 Sep 1856 3




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The NC Riddle Mystery Solved?

By Jim Hartung

Riddle descendants have been searching for years trying to discover the
parents and origins of John W., Tyre, and Randolph Riddle, the three
Riddle brothers who settled in Stokes Co. of western North Carolina.

In August Richard Riddle received an e-mail message from Stella Cotrill
who is a descendant of John Riddle (1680-c.1745) of Prince Georges Co.,
Maryland. Stella has been amassing genealogical information about this
line from various researchers for a number of years. Stella believes she
may have a solution to our Riddle puzzle.

In March of 1794 a petition was filed in Maryland by John Riddles
grandchildren concerning his estate. It can be found on tape CR34.684-1,
page 143-146 at the Maryland Archives in Annapolis. The grandchildren
are listed as follows:
1. Jacob of Prince Georges Co., Maryland.
2. James of Prince Georges Co., Maryland.
3. Zachariah, executor, of Loudoun Co., Virginia.
4. Basil of North Carolina.
5. Sally Nicholson and husband Francis of Frederick Co., Maryland.
6. George the eldest son of John who is deceased and his six children:
George, Samuel, Jeremiah, Mary Hutchison and husband Benjamin, Elizabeth
Walker and husband Joseph and Ann all of Loudon Co., Virginia.
7. John deceased, second oldest of John and his two sons Randall and John
of Greenville, North Carolina.
8. Samuel deceased and his children John and Sarah of Montgomery Co.,
Maryland.
9. Elizabeth Beck deceased, husband Anthony and children John of
Kentucky, Anthony of Montgomery Co., Maryland, Jeremiah and James both
under 21 living with Joseph Beck guardian.

You will notice that number 7, John Riddles two sons, Randall and John
are listed as living in Greenville, North Carolina. Searching the 1790
Federal Census of North Carolina you will find a John and Randolph Riddle
are listed in Stokes Co.

These two Riddles share not only the same names (almost) of John Riddles
sons but also fit the time frame for John and Randals births. In the
1800 census John and Randle again appear in Stokes Co.

You will notice that Tyre Riddle is not mentioned in the petition but
strong circumstantial evidence connects him to John and Randolph as a
brother, cousin or uncle, most likely a brother.

John and Randolph were the sons of John Riddle (1734-c.1795) and his
first wife Mary. John was the son of Elizabeth Linton and John Riddle
(1708-1794) whose parents were John Riddle (1680-c.1745) and probably
Elizabeth Bowman, all of Prince Georges Co., Maryland.

In addition to identifying the ancestral line of John and Randolph,
Stellas information ties together numerous Riddle lines mostly in
Maryland, Virginia, and North Carolina.

For instance Stephen Riddle (1730-1807) born in Prince Georges Co.,
Maryland and owner of Riddles Ferry in Rowan Co., North Carolina is a
first cousin, once removed to John and Randolph. Stephen is a grandson
of John Riddle (1650-1745).

The well known Riddle researcher Doratha Riddle Marsh gives Stephen
Riddle the credit for being the first Riddle in North Carolina which was
prior to 1757. Riddles Ferry was located on the Yadkin River near what
is now Clemmons, North Carolina.

The ferry remained in the family until sold by Stephens son Benjamin
Riddle to Thomas Oakes in 1824. Benjamin and his family then moved to
Hardeman Co., Tennessee. Stephens father was Benjamin Riddle
(1703-1750) son of John Riddle (1680-1745) and Elizabeth Bowman. Stephen
had three brothers, Zachariah, John, and Benjamin II. Zachariah moved to
Virginia and later to Orange Co., North Carolina.

Stephen married Elizabeth Douthit and had the following children: Mary b.
1761, Elizabeth b. 1763, John b. 1764, Sarah Ann b. 1767, Benjamin b.
1769, Anna b. 1772, Stephen b. 1776, plus one unknown child b. 1776 all
born in Rowan Co.

We find another of John and Randolphs relatives living in North
Carolina, their uncle Basil Riddle who was born in 1737 also in Prince
Georges Co., Maryland, and the brother of their father John Riddle
(1734-c.1795).

In the book Surry Co NC Court Minutes Vol 1 & 2 1768-1789 by Mrs. W.O.
Absher, John and Randolph Riddle are listed on page 134, 16 Feb 1788.
"Randol Riddle and John, jury to mark road if necessary from Virginia
line near William Webbs to Rockingham county line near Abraham Martins."

From 1781 to 1789 there are numerous references to Basil in this same
book under various spellings such as Basdel, Baswell, Bazel, Baswell,
Bazzell, Bazzle, Boswell, Brasseell and Brazzlo.

Basil was the twin brother of Zachariah Riddle who immigrated to Loudoun
Co., Virginia. Ill hold the Virginia Riddle line for another article.

If you would like to see the complete list of Stella Cotrills John
Riddle (1680-1745) descendants and have access to the Internet her web
site may be found at
http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~stellacotrill/. We still have a
lot of research and verification to do concerning the Riddles of Prince
Georges Co., Maryland but it certainly appears that our Stokes Co.,
North Carolina Riddles were originally from Maryland.

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General Notes for Child Lucinda RIDDLE

North Carolina marriage bond lists Lucinda Coon as wife of Adoniram Allen
II, we suspect that Lucinda Riddle married a Coon, was widowed then
remarried.. We have no actual evidence.

'Yancey County Will Book' Inventory account of sales of the personal
property of Lucinda Allen, deceased. Estate of Lucinda Allen deceased:
A.D. ALLEN - 1 pot; JOHN ALLEN - 1 oven; LUCY ALLEN - 1 skillet; EDMOND
McMAHAN -?; NANCY HENSLEY - 1 wheel; SAMUEL AUSTIN -1 keg; ELIZABETH
HENSLEY - 1 loom; A.D. ALLEN - 1 lot of ?; NATH DUCAN - 1 churn; JOHN
ALLEN - 1 coffee pot; JAMES ALLEN - 1 bucket; BENJAMIN ALLEN -1 box of
knives and forks; RACHAEL ALLEN - pan and cups; JAMES ALLEN - lot of
plates and cups; NANCY WILSON - 1 pair of cords; ERVIN ALLEN - 1 lot of
chairs; A.D. ALLEN -1 table; LUCY ALLEN -?; A.D. ALLEN - ?; NANCY WILSON
- 1 bee stand; ERVIN ALLEN - 1 bee stand; SAMUEL AUSTING - 1 blowing
horn; LUCY ALLEN -?; RACHAEL ALLEN - 1 bee stand; NANCY WILSON - 1 bed
stead; NATHAN DUCAN - 1 bed and furniture; THOMAS WILSON - 1 mare; ERVIN
ALLEN - 1 sow and 1 cow; A.D. ALLEN -4 barrels; ERVIN ALLEN - 2 shoats;
JAMES ALLEN - 1 cow; SAMUEL AUSTIN - 1 lot of greens
NATHAN ALLEN, Adm. of LUCINDA ALLEN Cash paid for burying expense: John
W. McElroy - $ 8.15; N. Penland - $ 3.78; Absolom Penland - $ 3.00; Total
- $14.93 Receipt from heirs: Clemuel Arrowood - $ 7.00; James Allen - $
6.25; A.D. Allen - $7.00; Rachael Allen - $ 1.25; Blanchey Hensley - $
6.00; Job Allen - $ 6.00; Peggy Edwards - $6.00; Nancy Wilson - $ 6.00;
Jency Willson - $ 6.00; Lucy Roberson - $ 6.00; John Allen - $ 6.00

Lucinda Allen has previously been listed as Lucinda Koon. Information
received through the research of Sandra Fender, Bill Hensley, and Millard
Murdock working with Yancey County Probate Minutes of Fall Term 1844
indicates convincingly that Lucy was the daughter of John W. Riddle Sr. 4 5


General Notes for Child William RIDDLE

18 Aug 2001 Family Group Sheet
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Husband: William RIDDLE #67
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Born: Abt 1793 in: Stokes Co. NC
Died: Abt 1858 in: Yancey County, NC
Ref: Lloyd Bailey Occupation:
Father: John W. RIDDLE, SR. #65
Mother: Unknown Wife of John Riddle #565
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Wife: Priscilla "Pressie" HENSLEY RENFROE #87
Married: Abt 1811 in: Buncombe County
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Born: Abt 1795 in:
Died: in:
Father: Hickman HENSLEY #4215
Mother: Elizabeth RENFRO #4216
Based on the research by Jack Riddle, he indicates that Priscilla was a
Hensley and she was so indicated in my Riddle book printed in 1994.
After a
death record for Marvel Riddle her son indicated that her last name was
Renfro the record was changed in 1996. Information from Bill Hensley, it
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now believed that her father was Hickman Hensley and her mother was
Elizabeth
Renfro. Other infromation from Bill Hensley has been added to her line.
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F Child 1 Elendor? "Nellie" RIDDLE #716
Born: about 1812 in: Yancey County, NC
Died: in:
Spouse: John ROWLAND,(Roland) #1541 b. about 1809
Married: about 1830 in:
Spouse: "Anderson" William Anderson CODY #1549 b. 1846
Married: in:
This Elendor Riddle is believed to have been the Elendor (Riddle) as
shown in
the 1850 Yancey County Census, the wife of John Rowland (Roland) and
living
in a nearby household to her father William. Based on this conjecture, I
am
including her children as descendants of John W. Riddle, Sr. I welcome
any
comments in support of or in opposition to this conjecture. RLR
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F Child 2 Unknown Daughter A RIDDLE #715
Born: Abt 1816-1820 in:
Died: in:
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F Child 3 Rachel RIDDLE #717
Born: Abt. 1824 in:
Died: in:
Spouse: James ALLEN #1553 b. 1814
Married: about 1841 in:
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M Child 4 Marvel M. RIDDLE #1797
Born: Mar-15-1825 in: Yancey County, NC
Died: Jan-15-1916 in: Barnardsville, NC Buncombe County
Buried: in: Greenwood Cemetery, Buncombe County
Spouse: Rachel "Granny Riddle" AUSTIN #1798 b. Jul-26-1819 d.
Aug-18-1928
Married: 1839 in:
As reported by Norma Dilingham Morgan, of Weaverville, NC, the death
record
from Buncombe County says that Marvel was the son of William Riddle and
Pressil Renfoe. The only William Riddle in Buncombe (Yancey, 1833)
County
in 1825 was William Riddle, son of John W. Riddle, Sr.
Thanks to the efforts of Mary Cathryn Riddle Watts the mystery of the
ancestry
of Marvel Riddle has been solved. The identity of Marvel's father has
eluded
many Riddle family researchers for several years.
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M Child 5 James W. RIDDLE #88
Born: Abt 1832 in:
Died: in:
Spouse: Nancy HENSLEY #657 b. Abt 1835
Married: in:
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F Child 6 Mary RIDDLE #89
Born: Abt 1834 in:
Died: in:
Spouse: John W. HENSLEY #2691 b. 1830
Married: in:
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Julia A. RIDDLE




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Wife Julia A. RIDDLE

         Born: 1833
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       Father: Nathan RIDDLE (1804-      )
       Mother: Rebecca RIDDLE (1806-      )




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Leonid? RIDDLE




Husband Leonid? RIDDLE

         Born: 1833
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       Father: John W. RIDDLE Jr. (1800-      )
       Mother: Elender COOK (1800-      )


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Littie L. D. RIDDLE




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Wife Littie L. D. RIDDLE 6

         Born: 1866 6
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       Father: John RIDDLE (1836-      )
       Mother: Nancy McKINNEY (1842-      )




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Margaret RIDDLE




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Wife Margaret RIDDLE

         Born: 28 Mar 1824
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       Father: Benjamin Tyre RIDDLE (1800-1875)
       Mother: Rachel AUSTIN (Abt 1803-      )




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Martha C. RIDDLE




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Wife Martha C. RIDDLE 6

         Born: Abt 1869 6
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       Father: John RIDDLE (1836-      )
       Mother: Nancy McKINNEY (1842-      )



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Sources


1 Richard Riddle.

2 Email correspondence, Richard Riddle.

3 IGI Entry, Marriage record, IGI, Mormon Church.

4 Clay County Ky-History & Famil.

5 Yancey County Probate Records, Minutes of Fall term 1844, Yancey County,NC.

6 Census Record.


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